Most KFCs in Canada to Offer Vegan Chicken!

Wendy commented:

Jul 24, 2008 12:14 PM

I see this as a step in the right direction. KFC isnt going to shut their doors anytime soon. The suffering and death of chickens isnt going to happen anytime soon.. Soooo...perhaps some of you need to look at this in a simpler way. It offers those that arent yet Vegan, those that are perhaps only JUST considering a vegetarian lifestyle, those that have a conscience, a choice to NOT eat meat. I think it's definately a step in the right direction. And to those that want to jump in here and break apart what I've said or comment... We are all entitled to our own opinion. I am a PETA advocate, I do believe in the ethical treatment of animals. I do see this (especially with someone like KFC)
ludditerobot commented:

Jul 24, 2008 12:03 PM

@ aspcia: And I'm shocked that you're *not* appalled by an animal "rights" organization appealing to animal exploitation industries to kill birds in particular ways to increase their profit and improve slaughter efficiency! Did you read the PDF I linked to earlier? If not, here are some excerpts:
CAK increases product quality and yield: Because birds are dead by the time they are shackled (and because there is no dumping at all), product quality and yield are improved ...

CAK would nearly eliminate contamination because birds would be killed in transport containers rather than being dumped and would, therefore, not be scratching at each other and would be unable to inhale in the stun bath or defecate in the scald tank. This has significant benefits for producers since, according to the USDA, in 2002, almost 5.5 million chickens were condemned for being contaminated.

Using inert gases induces anoxia on the cellular level in carcass muscles, which can change oxidation/reduction potentials and, thus, lead to increased shelf-life of meat due to a slowing [sic] the development of odors and discoloration.

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency states that controlled-atmosphere killing "is also reported to produce more tender breast meat than when electrical [immobilization] is used.
The same document then goes on to point out how gassing chickens will not only allow for more chickens to be killed, for their corpses to last longer on the shelf and to be more tender, but will also lower labor costs, reduce employee turnover, and reduce the cost of extended refrigeration by allowing for "earlier filleting." If all of this -- coming from an "animal rights" organization -- is not appalling, it appears that word no longer means anything. This comment is already long enough, but as for alternatives, I'd note that several have been offered: for large organizations like PETA, aggressive vegan outreach and the underwriting of vegan restaurants, to name two. For vegan activists, widening the circles of discussion, bringing these issues to the forefront of our communities, podcasts, Web sites, pamphlets, protests ... all the modes of incremental change rising from the bottom up and involving people's specific communities and spheres of influence. Over time, all those individual actions and everyday vegan activism -- including the most important form of activism, going vegan itself -- are far more important than anything the big national groups do. As this case demonstrates, a lot of what those big groups do are not only ineffective, but damaging and, yes, appalling.
jessica commented:

Jul 24, 2008 2:20 AM

we need to try to make the kfc in united states make a vegan menu!
aspcia commented:

Jul 22, 2008 11:34 PM

I hear a lot of complaining but no solutions to offer along with it. Would you have preferred PETA to ask them nicely to close their doors? And ludditerobot, I am shocked that you are appalled that PETA approached KFC with a "cost-benefit analysis". KFC is out to make money and they are making it! KFC isn't doing this because of some heart breaking video, they have no reason to give into PETA's request unless there's a benefit in it for them. PETA would never get their foot in the door otherwise. It's important to have skeptical people who will point out flaws, but those same people need to offer an alternative otherwise they aren't helping anyone. I challenge anyone who's complaining to come up with a viable solution. And I hope there are plenty! Until then, this is a step in the right direction. My husband is an omnivore and when we want a quick bite to eat it can be a hassle finding someplace both of us can get satiated (there was one great vegan drive thru we both loved but they closed !! arrrgghhhhh). I've been vegetarian for 15 years and vegan for the last 3 and being the only one in my circle of family and friends that eat and live this lifestyle - I know it's important to be open and forgiving.
ludditerobot commented:

Jul 22, 2008 5:01 PM

I'm guessing KFC isn't planning to write me back anytime soon. As for preparation, anyway, it appears others are reporting back first: â€œI live in Calgary, AB and I was really excited to try the new vegan KFC burger. I called my nearest location to see if they carried it and then asked them how they cooked it. They said they fry it up in the same fryer as the meat. This was very upsetting and I just wanted to pass this news along as I think it might be something that should be posted since it kind of defeats the whole Vegan thing. I still applaud PETAâ€™s efforts but thought it might be info that should be passed along to others were are also a little misinformed.â€ This isn't relevant to my original arguments regarding property and economic status, but since preparation has been mentioned several times here, I thought I'd post it.

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