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One more fight for Vick’s dogs?

Written by PETA | August 28, 2007

This week, Vick’s dogs became the “property” of federal authorities, which means that they are no longer legally required to be held as they have since April, awaiting what is widely accepted as the only safe and humane fate for dogs bred, raised and trained to kill each other and other animals: a painless release from this world. Some people are saying “we must save the Vick dogs!” That sounds good, but let’s think for a minute. These dogs are not only hot fighting stock but a hot “star” commodity and will always be in danger of being stolen. For four months now, they have gone stir crazy in cages at animal control agencies around Virginia. Because they can’t be trusted to be around each other or any other animals, they are isolated, kept in solitary confinement, 24/7. Although this has likely been the only time in their sad lives when humans have shown them any kindness, life in a cage is no life. Some people have gone as far as to suggest that the dogs should have their teeth removed so that they can stay alive. Warehousing and mutilating these dogs is not the answer; it’s cruelty. Keeping them solitary and caged for the rest of their lives, no matter if in a “sanctuary” pen or in a pen in a yard, won’t be much different from how they spent their non-fighting time on Vick’s property. In this case, we must not only think about what makes us feel good. We have to think carefully about these dogs, the other animals, too, and perhaps children, who could well be at risk if “the Vick dogs” are released. Let’s also think about the tens of thousands of homeless dogs languishing in animal shelters at this very moment who desperately need our attention—the thousands upon thousands of dogs who can actually be walked or run in a dog park without fear of a mauling or worse; who are social and happy-go-lucky and won’t have to be kept isolated for life due to the unpredictable behavior that results from abuse.

Every day that these dogs remain in kennels at animal shelters is a day of increased euthanasia rates for the potentially adoptable animals that the shelters must put to death for lack of space. There is only so much space, and resources are limited. May I humbly suggest that instead of raising hell and raising money to try to “rehabilitate” these dogs, and instead of flying to Virginia to “save the Vick dogs,” we do less “heroic” but even more important things to save dogs’ lives. When it comes to euthanasia, every day’s real world choice is of which not if—making the choice to demand that fighting dogs be “saved” is a soothing fantasy, more about public relations and, in some obvious cases, about fundraising, than about truly helping the most dogs in the most productive ways. If you have been tempted to join the call to “save the Vick dogs,” please think about sponsoring a spay surgery instead. That simple wonderful act will prevent the births of countless homeless dogs who will never have to be “saved” because they will never be homeless, thanks to you. Or call your local open-admission shelter and find out how else you can get involved. It makes more sense and helps more dogs.

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  • Cate Kulak says:

    It would be nice if you guys would update this post. I have been looking on your site for recognition of the fact that BadRap.org and BestFriends.org have had tremendous success rehabilitating these dogs. The vast majority of them are now living normal lives with several working as therapy dogs. HSUS has admitted their errors. Can PETA admit their error in the interest of saving canine lives?????

  • Vanna Rocha says:

    I agree with animal lovers The sacrifice of any healthy animal should always be the last resort or never one if possible. M. Vick should provide for these dogs. They deserve a chance for happiness and to say to kill them is taking the easy way out. M. Vick has enough money he is responsible he should care for them financially and physically for the rest of their lives! With a lot of time and patience that these dogs can overcome their problems. They should go to a nice santuary with space and games and stay there with Vick’s money. Some of Vick’s dog went to Best Friend and they are great! With love atention games and living in a nice place they can change. I SAY NO TO THE KILING OF THE DOGS ! But I Like PETA Just wish they could be more understanding and never agree with the killing of animals. PETA does a lot for animals and because of PETA I am vegetarian.

  • Haley says:

    Ive been reading some of the comments and cant believe what ive read!? how can anyone be a fan of Vick?are you serious? This guy is pure evil and so are the people who agree with his actions what sort of person could watch a dog being brutely killed for fun for money? I know dogs are not human but they deserve to be treated humanely.

  • DoggyDaddy says:

    Well as it turns out BADRAP has rescued all the Vicktims and taken them to their rehab shelter. Two had to be PTS because of injury and illness but the others are doing well. They are very sweet dogs and one of themLeo has passed all his TTs and become a Therapy dog after just TWO MONTHS of training. Cheers to BADRAP for saving them and JEERS to PETA for advocating their destruction. WTF were you thinking???

  • JILL says:

    I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THESE DOG ARE 100 SAVING. DOGS THAT WERE USED FOR FIGHTING CAN AND SHOULD BE REHABILATED. I KNOW I OWN ONE AND HE HAS A BEST FRIEND WHO IS A FEMALE PITT WHO WAS USED AS A BAIT DOG. SAVE THE PITT!!!

  • Jennifer says:

    I think it’s funny how quickly PETA has condemned these dogs now that they’ve made all the money they can off them. First ones out the gate getting press and contributions in their name first ones to jump off their bandwagon once the well has run dry. They’re not useful to the cause anymore so let’s have a few staff members kill them and dump their bodies in trashcans shall we? Very classy.

  • Dane Hoover says:

    I see nothing but ignorance in Ingrid Newkirk’s remarks she obviously knows nothing about pit bulls or animals in general I fear. There are too many rescue organizations who have had success retraining these dogs for her to just issue them a noquestionsasked death sentence. APBT rescue groups screen owners very carefully anyone who adopts a dog from a group like BAD RAP is going to be about 10 times more responsible than your average pet owner. Ingrid your only handson experience with animnals to my knowledge is in euthanizing them. Leave it to the experts.

  • peta-pan says:

    PLEASE IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO POST MY RESPONSE TO PAM ANDERSON LOVER REMOVE ALL MY VIEWS IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU

  • peta-pan says:

    hi jack could you please remove all the other views that i posted because i think its wrong that u only post what you think those assholes will not respond too. pam andersonlover called me names even after i apologize for my actions so i responded the only way i wanted and you wouldn’t post it but you posted him insulting me so please remove all of what i have posted and i will not come on peta again. thank you

  • peta-pan says:

    TO ALL OF YOU THAT DISLIKE M. VICK AND HOPES HE NEVER RETURN TO THE NFL. WELL IT WILL BE YOUR LOST BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE. FOR THE ATLANTA FANS I’M SO SORRY BECAUSE THE FALCONS WILL NEVER BE NOTHING UNTIL THEY GET ANOTHER VICK. YOU KNOW EVERYBODY DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE BUT TO MOAN AND GROAN ABOUT SOME DAM PITBULLS JUST MAKE ME WANT TO ASK AGAIN WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE AND WHERE THE HELL DID YOU COME FROM. YOU TACKLED VICK LIKE YOU WERE A BUNCH OF PITBULLS BUT WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING WAS GETTING DONATIONS TO GO OUT AND HELP ALL THESE DAM HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT HAS NO WHERE TO GO. THAT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MOST HUMANE THING TO DO INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER VICK LIKE A BUNCH OF SALTINES. IF VICK DID WRONG THEN THAT’S GODS JUDGEMENT NOT MAN THAT YOU WOULD ATTACK HIM THE WAY YOU DID AND THEN HAVE THE ADACITY TO SAY HE DOESN’T DESERVE TO BE FORGIVEN GIVE ME A BREAK YOU DEVIL WORSHIPPERS. THOSE THAT DONT FORGIVE VICK I HOPE YOUR SOULS REST IN HELL.

  • Emily Iverson says:

    Thank you for this article. I am very touched by your compassion for the Vick dogs. It’s true that they would have a very horrible time if they were to stay alive. And they would be a danger to people and other animals. I’m the owner of an Amstaff and she’s very well behaved and sweet but people are still afraid of her sometimes screaming at us as we walk by Bella calmly walking with me on a leash mind you. People have good reason to be afraid of the “tough breed” dogs and we shouldn’t add to that. Thank you again for your compassionate article.

  • peta-pan says:

    BASIA AND ANONYMOUS I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO SAY THIS IS NOT A RACIAL SITUATION WITH MIKE. PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK YOU CAN’T SEE THE FOREST FOR THE NOOSE’S HANGING FROM THE TREES. LOOK WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE DOGS OKAY VICK DID IT GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON TO SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT LIKE HELPING THE HOMELESS AND ALSO GO AFTER THE PEDOPHILES WHO ARE RAPING WOMEN CHILDREN AND INNOCENT LITTLE BABIES THAT CAN’T HELP THEMSELVES. I’M NOT ANGRY OR UPSET ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO BLACKS DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT BECAUSE BELIEVE ME THEIR IS NO WAY IN HELL THEY WOULD GET AWAY WITH IT TODAY. I’M PROBABLY PIST THAT YOU DIDN’T DEFEND BLACKS WHEN THE COPS TORTURED THEM WITH DOGS LETS NOT FORGET HUMAN BEINGS NOT ANIMALS AREN’T HUMANS ABOVE ANIMALS AND WEREN’T THOSE DOGS TRAINED. SO WHY NOW THAT A BLACK MAN SUPPOSEDLY TRAINED THOSE DOGS TO FIGHT IT IS A PROBLEM HELL AT LEAST HE TRAINED DOGS TO ATTACK DOGS AND NOT HUMANS WOULDN’T THAT BE THE MOST HUMANE THING TO DO. WHITES STARTED THAT SPORT LONG AGO BEFORE ISRAELITES KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND FOR ANYONE WHO THINKS I’M AND IDIOT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT TELLS ME A LOT ABOUT YOU AND WHAT ORGANIZATION YOU BELONG TO.

  • peta-pan says:

    TO BASIA AND ANONYMOUS I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CONTINOUSLY SAY ITS NOT RACIAL. YOU HAVE ON BLINDERS AND YOU CAN’T SEE THE FOREST FOR THE NOOSES HANGING FROM THE TREES. LOOK WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE DOGS. OKAY VICK DID IT GET OVER IT AND FIND SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT TO DO LIKE HELP THE HOMELESS AND HELP GO AFTER THESE FREAKS WHO ARE OUT THERE RAPING WOMEN CHILDREN AND PRECIOUS INNOCENT BABIES THAT CANNOT HELP THEMSELVES. I’M NOT ANGRY OR UPSET AT WHITE PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY DID THEN TO BLACK PEOPLE DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT BECAUSE BELIEVE ME THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THEY WOULD GET AWAY WITH IT TODAY. I’M PIST BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T FIGHT AGAINST THE PIGS WHEN THEY TORTURED BLACKS WITH DOGS LET’S NOT FORGET HUMAN BEINGS NOT ANIMALSWASN’T THOSE DOGS TRAINED TO DO IT SO WHY NOW THAT A BLACK MAN SUPPOSEDLY TRAINED THOSE DOGS TO FIGHT ITS A PROBLEM HELL AT LEASE IT WAS ANOTHER DOG AND NOT HUMANS THAT HE TRAINED THEM TO FIGHT AND LET’S NOT FORGET WHITE PEOPLE STARTED THAT SHIT A LONG TIME BEFORE ISRAELITES KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SPORT. THE REASON THE WORLD IS SO SCREWED UP NOW IS BECAUSE OF YOUR WAYS OF THINKING AND ESPECIALLY HATRED SO I DON’T GIVE A FLYING CHICKEN WINGS WHAT YOU SAY IT DOESN’T CHANGED THE FACT THAT YOUR KIND IS LIKE A SNAKE IN THE GRASS THEY WILL CREEP UP ON YOU UNTIL THEY GET YOU AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO VICK AND LOTS OTHERS THAT WERE ON TOP. AND FOR O.J. SIMPSON IF HE DID IT SO WHAT IT CANT COUNT FOR ALL THE SHIT YALL DONE AND ARE STILL DOING SO KISS OFF. YOU GOING AFTER HIM LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY THAT NICOLE WERE KILLED. NEVER PROVED HE DID IT BUT YOU JUST WANT TO HANG HIM FOR IT. DON’T GET ME WRONG I’M SORRY IT HAPPENED BUT AS FAR AS O.J. HE CAN GO TO HELL BECAUSE HE SHOULD HAVE STUCK WITH HIS OWN KIND THEN IF HE KILLED A BLACK WOMAN THEY WOULD HAVE BRUSHED IT UNDER THE RUG BY NOW BELIEVE IT AND YOU KNOW IT. AND FOR ANYONE WHO THINKS IM AN IDIOT THANK YOU VERY MUCH THAT TELLS ME A WHOLE LOT ABOUT WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT ORGANIZATION YOU BELONG TO. MAYBE LOTS OTHER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE MORE SYMPATHY LIKE ME IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME LITTLE OH POODLE OR SOME OTHER LIL SWEET DOG BUT YOU ARE DEFENDING PITBULLS AND FOR YALL TO GO AFTER MIKE WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAD TO DESTROY HIM TELLS ME YALL ARE IN THE SAME CATEGORY VICUOUS AND SNEAKY AND WILL KILL IF GIVEN A CHANCE.I HAVE KNOWN PEOPLE TO BE MURDERD AND DIDN’T GET ANY ATTENTION LIKE THIS YOU KNOW LIKE ALL THE YOUNG MEN BEING MURDERED AROUND THE WORLD BY COPS THAT WERE SUPPOSE TO PROTECT YOU BUT HOW IN THE HELL COULD WE EXPECT THEM TO PROTECT US WHEN THEY WERE THE ONES THAT SICK DOGS ON US. PAMANDERSON LOVER IM NOT TRYING TO WIN SHIT IM JUST APOLOGIZE FOR BEING SO RUDE I GOT CARRIED AWAY BECAUSE OF OTHERS BUT LET ME TELL YOU RETARD. WHO IS PAM ANDERSON THE ONE WITH THE BIG FAKE TITS AND THE 80 POUND BODY WHO GIVES A DAM WHO ARE YOU A WANNA BE ARE SOME KIND OF FREAK THAT IS CHASING PAM. I DONT GIVE A DAM ABOUT YOU ARE YOUR AFFILIATION ONE WAY ARE ANOTHER. PAM HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHORE MATERIAL TO ME AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT PROBABLY WILL EVER FALL IN LOVE WITH HER SO STOP TRYING TO HIDE BEHIND HER AND COME OUT OF THE CLOSET IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

  • John T Eyre MD says:

    I hope PETA is ashamed for calling for the killing of the Vick dogs. ASPCA and a team of behaviorists found 48 of the 49 able to live out happy lives in law enforcement adopted by experts at handling them or shelters. PETA won’t see a penny from me till you apologize publicly for the idiocy and cruelty you espoused. Thank God for the caring adults at ASPCA BADRAP and Best Friends. Who thinks shelters have cages ? Maybe some antiquated ones. Nokill shelters are blossoming all over the world staffed by saintly caring people who give the animals a happy life. Check out http://www.bestfriends.org where most of my financial support goes. Euthanasia is a euphemism. It is murder killing ! Best friends sanctuary in Utah is many times more expert than Ceasar the whisperer and much kinder to the animals. This is not a quantitative issue. Saving the Vick dogs in no way diminishes our energies to save the others languishing in poorly run antiquated “shelters” spayneuter etc.

  • J says:

    I hate michael vick and feel that the only just punishment is for him to never be allowed back in the NFL and maybe to have to work in a kennel for the rest of his life cleaning up after the dogs

  • Millie Poliakoff says:

    I agree with those who wrote to say that M. Vick should provide for these dogs. They deserve a chance for happiness and to say to kill them is taking the easy way out. M. Vick has enough money and I read several good suggestions here on how that money can help those poor dogs live out their life under spervision in a secluded well protected piece of property. If he is truely sorry he should be given the opportunity to help these dogs who he so horreendusly tortured. SHAME ON YOU PETA FOR NOT COMING UP WITH SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS GIVEN HERE FOR GIVING THE DOGS A CHANCE AT LIFE.

  • Basia says:

    I see too many sidetracked issues here. Return and focus on the issue of the dogs that are now hanging in a balance. The fate of these dogs is a difficult decision but anyone who thinks Peta takes this matter lightly is deserving of the darwin award. As animals can heal better than humans these dogs may have chance. I would sugget Peta get in touch with Cesar Milan. He knows pit bulls and red zone dogs very well. I would value his assessment above all others. He has the insight most people do not have. BTW petapanpeterpan you need a good timeout. Lay down your sword and rancor. You seem so full of anger and hatred and it blinds you. You are totally wrong about Peta and perhaps you need to attend their empathy course. Hopefully you are right and Vic comes out stronger. Stronger because he has come to see the horror of his actions and how these dogs and all creatures deserve respect and care. Perhaps Vick’s biggest problem was he never was taught to provide such respect for animals. Perhaps he was taught not to care or even know that others cared that much but now he knows and the message should go out to other promotors. “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated Ghandi

  • Peg says:

    I think that PETA should get in touch with the Dog Whisperer Cesar Milan from the National Geographic Channel. He may be able to rehabilitate some these dogs and possibly let them join his “pack” at his Los Angeles Dog Phycology Center. He may do it. you got to admit it would make for several very interesting shows!

  • Jeudi says:

    Holy Moley…. lots of different opinions. Lots of anger lots of hate. I kinda like the idea of making Michael Vick build a lovely confortable kennel for these dogs hire good folks to care for them. It could cost him millions. Perhaps he could provide room in his Kennel for other fighting dogs that have been rescued. Yep that’s what I think. Mike Vick’s PETA Kennel for Former Fighting Dogs. MVPETAKFFFD It could be in Virginia. They could even convert the old awful kennel. Thanks for creating a place for me to express my opinion. PETA you do great work.

  • peta-pan says:

    aairhead445 if m. vick is an idiot and stupid then what is dick chaney and george bush.

  • Anonymous says:

    who gives a Dam if he lead a great football career… if i was a serial killer but i was a pro football player should i be forgiven or let off the hook? how are pit bulls killer of human beings? unless they are raised in this barbaric way they are dogs… just that ordinary dogs from my knowledge im not part of peta peta is against killing of animals in every way. you my friend are nothing but a ignorant michael vick fan and you need to do research before posting somthing you do not know anything about. the only argument i can see is that he is insane… anyone who can watch 2 dogs rip each other apart and find enjoyment out of it is INSANE. Ff it was a white man the circum stances would be the exact same. stoping pulling that card it may have had its relevance 50 years or so ago but living in this day age and time it doesnt. i am against racism and i think all the pain and suffering that african americans had to endure was barbaric and untolerable… as for the lady who through her baby into a trash can… we arnt agreeing with that the dog should have been put to sleep if it were that aggressive

  • Miranda says:

    awwwe thats so sad why would he do such a cruel thing to dogs jeez what and assshole

  • kate says:

    i think it is sad and unfortunate that these dogs have to die because of what people trained them to do. i have two adopted pitbulls and one was used for dog fighting and was considered “unadoptable”. sure enough this dog that was considered human and animal aggressive was able to be rehabilitated as i’m sure some or all of these dogs are..people just don’t want to spend the time and money it takes to rehabilitate these dogs! its so sad..pitbulls deserve a chance..they were never interested in really fighting they were forced to and we can change that.

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