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Posted 09-28-2007

I’m psyched to let you know that we’ve just partnered with Helium, “the leading consumer destination where people can speak their minds and consider opposing opinions.” We’re excited because the partnership provides PETA members, and the public at large, an open and fair environment to debate any animal rights issue that you want. The site’s format is super user-friendly, so this should be a fun and easy way to talk to new people about the issues you’re most passionate about.

Should the NFL add cruelty to animals to its personal conduct policy? Do PETA’s naked protest tactics work? Should chickens be added to the Humane Slaughter Act? These and other debates are already heating up over at Helium, so check it out and let me know what you think.

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Recent Comments

Mike Quinoa commented:

Oct 1, 2007 11:53 AM

Christopher What was your little nirvana like before man appeared on the scene? I'm sure Mother Nature had no problem whatsoever taking care of biodiversity without your assistance. My point was that your comment was nonsensical. How can you maintain you do more than 100 activists when you have absolutely no idea what they in fact are doing? I was under the impression that many animals themselves controlled their reproductive rates based on the carrying capacity of their environment. Any biologists out there?
sadCONFUSED commented:

Oct 1, 2007 11:49 AM

ANIMALS DESERVE TO LIVE.. today in class my professor was talking about the holocaust and it just made me so MAD. He goes " They actually killed living people for NO reason they deserved to live and did nothing wrong but they killed them anyway " i thought sooo? we do that to BILLIONS of animals everyday.. noone makes that a big deal how can noone feel bad for them? im just SO upset that people can actually not care about animals being killed.
Ariel commented:

Oct 1, 2007 11:47 AM

Hi Ana! On 926 probably just like you did I received an email from PeTA that described the purpose of the blog site "...features exclusive insider info about animalfriendly celebs breaking campaigns victories for animals and a unique insight into the world of animals from the point of view of a PeTA emp." When I first discovered this blog site months ago I was beyond thrilled to know that I would be in touch with fellow activists. I know that singing WITH the choir is not getting our message out there and I knew antiviews were to be expected. Well I definitely was not disappointed with reading comments from fellow REAL activists and the blog site info thanks to Jack but apparently I gave the anti's too much credit hoping at least that they would have open minds. Instead the majority of the anti's only use this forum to vent their hate or other nonsense. no further explanation needed Anyway I couldn't agree with you more that doing good should not have to be defended. Therefore it doesn't make any sense to me that doing good is perceived by the anti's as being debatable especially with them supposedly reading and knowing the horrendous facts about animal abuse on this blog site. I have a very low tolerance for nonsense anymore so I find it useless to address them directly because all they really seem to want is attention and to be argumentative. I feel that I can only have a sensible "conversation" with another activist. However I tremendously admire all the activists who perservere in addressing and negating them and very easily at that but the same anti's foolishly keep coming back. yet the seeds of good have been planted They can't seem to comprehend that this is a nowin issue for them because good ALWAYS wins over evil. definitely NOT implying that they are evil I totally agree with all your comments concerning the religious issues. And Ana you cannot even imagine how many times I have thought about the "Garden of Eden" exactly how you described your thoughts. I really believe that is what deepens our ar's beliefs even more. Plus I absolutely love the beliefs of St. Francis of Assisi. Wishing you the best always!
Christopher Cochran MD commented:

Oct 1, 2007 1:06 AM

Mike the number of animals I have helped to restore is immeasurable. From spiders to redtailed hawk foxes roadrunners quail deer turkey rabbits coyotes numbers are all up. Biodiversity in the flora is amazing. It has gone from being an near monoculture of nonnative fescue to countless seed producing forbes with terrestrial diversity offering numerous different habitats in only 200 acres. I can't imagine how many plants and animals have benefited. I can't see how you could count. Much more that four rescued cats times 100. I am seeing bugs and snakes and birds I haven't seen for years. The fact that I hunt some of these animals for wildlife management purposes discounts me into the enemy category. I don't shoot tame birds except on training a bird dog. And my bird dog was not from a puppy mill. My nurse doesn't have a puppy mill. So I believe I do more directly for animals than any one hundred of you. I am not bragging. My point is that your "enemy" has many of the same goals as you it's just that I focus on wildlife. I don't shoot anything I don't intend to eat crows and groundhogs in my garden are the exception. I don't shoot predators or raptors or songbirds because they aren't good to eat. I just drove in from Little Rock tonight and counted over one hundred deer standing on the side of the road. Road kills are not my idea of a good non hunting control of the population. How do you propose we fix the blossoming deer population without hunting?
rojo commented:

Sep 30, 2007 8:27 PM

ana hate to disappoint you but the kangaroo bill in california didn't rate a mention here. Kangaroo species that are allowed to be culled are not endangered. Maybe because they are not cat prey. yes some joey's are killed they won't survive if they are too young. Their heads are fragile and a stomp is a fast and painless exit. All very well to say cats are innocent if you want to end up a nation with a heap of cats and not much else. I'm not sure to which horrible fashion cats are dispatched you are refering most are shot. Australians are quite proud of their convict past alas I had no such ancestors.
Margarita commented:

Sep 30, 2007 4:53 PM

I agree that is very disheartening to go against somebody who doesn't want to know of any reason why it is wrong to eat or torture animals. In the beginning when I started to do something for the animals online like Peta suggested I went on IM on Myspace and they blasted me up on account I wanted to start a conversation about animal rights. But I think that one has to be sharp and ready for the counterattack because in reality that's a good way to get people talking about and perhaps changing some minds eventually.
Ana commented:

Sep 30, 2007 4:12 PM

Hello lovely Ariel Thank you for your kind words and praise which I accept with the utmost humility. You and the other wonderful people on this blog who do wondeful things for animals have earned my respect and admiration. I like you am tired of the specious arguments the animalhaterskillers present to us who love and defend the billions of helpless and friendless animals. There exists absolutely no need to defend what is good that is compassion for the other creatures. In reference to Christianity Catholic Concern for Aniamls is trying very hard to change the attitude of Christians towards the other animalscreatures. If Christians would really practice Christian charity we would actually create a Garden of Eden where all of us along with the other wonderful animals would live in absolute harmony. I take the Catholic church to task for not addressing this. And as popular as John Paul II was to me he did not do anything for animals and therefore I do not consider him great. Nonetheless as a Catholic I keep trying to educate Christians about the true meaning of mercy. Asking God for mercy while wearing the skins and eating the flesh of animals that were subjected to misery violence cruelty and barbaric deaths is both hypocritical and nonChristian. Peace to you!
Ana commented:

Sep 30, 2007 3:49 PM

rojo The death penalty is legal as of now in 37 states. Also many of these states do NOT use the option to utilize the death penalty. There also exists MANY antideath penalty organizations in the USA. Again this is politics and not necessarily the voice of the people. The death penalty is given to murderers in extreme cases and not all of them even when they do get a death sentence ever have it carried out. The rest of your comments make no sense. Your native marsupials for example the kangaroo also suffer extensively brutal deaths at the hands of cruel Australians. You even stomp to death the joeys lovely . And the kangaroo is the creature that representssymbolizes Australia. I know you will say well there are just too many kangaroos. I guess you don't show a film on your airlines' flights showing how Australians brutally extirminate the kangaroos. Might not make for pleasant flights. Thankfuly Californians voted against kangaroo leather being exported into the USA. Made your government rather irate with that decision. The cats were brought there and are innocent they act on instinct and for survival. Welcome to the 21st century and initiate spayneuter efforts and instill compassion in your population. I will admit there are some compassionate people trying very hard to help these cats but killing them in such a horrible fashion isn't the solution. Your koalas also are suffering depleted numbers in populations. Speaking of prisoners as you mentioned Australia was founded as a penal colony. England emptied its prisons and sent them to your country.
Ariel commented:

Sep 30, 2007 1:25 PM

Hi again Ana! Once again I must applaud you for your compassionate realistic and highly educated comments. I also applaud and admire kerry Michele Mike Gerry and 007 "PHD" that was cute funny I would only like to add a little something concerning the Catholic faith plus that is derived from your last comments. of course again most likely nothing that you are not aware of already not preaching to you or anyone just simply expressing my thoughts. CatholicsChristians are given a less "defined" concept about the Heavenly bliss in comparison to the horrors of Hell there is a reason for that and of course Heaven and Hell are opposite states of spirituality. Since Heaven is a state of eternal total Love and peace undeniably there cannot be any atrocities conducted therefore there cannot be any tears pain infliction of pain killing torturing slaughtering exploitation etc. Since Heaven is a spiritual home for souls including animals' souls there cannot be any physical matter for some examples rifles slaughterhouses cages etc. It is sometimes said and believed that people begin their spiritual journey on earth which will lead them to either Heaven or Hell by their choice due to having free will. however as we know Catholics believe in Purgatory I gather that whether it be the Christian faith Judaism Buddhism Hinduism Moslem or any other similar religion the consistent theme that is taught is love peace and respect for life. Just to interject I know of some atheists who practice respect and dignity for life and I personally know atheists very profession people who dedicate a great amount of their free time to an animal shelter. Bringing my comments around focusing them on the animals which is not an insinuation for you or any other ar's activist those who believe in the afterlife yet torture andor kill innocent beings I think are going to be mighty surprised when they meet their "Higher Power to discover that their argumentsdebates which they "joyfully" defend any of their beliefs about torturing killing slaughtering trapping etc. are finally going to be proven totally noncredible and definitely not feasible in the spiritual realm of eternal Love peace and harmony. note of course I am not accounting for all religious beliefs
Kimberly commented:

Sep 29, 2007 9:21 PM

Hello everyone I would like to share with you some of the arguments I make to the Christian Community. Important biblical verses ECCLESIASTES 319 "For that which befalls the sons of men also befalls beasts even in the end one thing befalls them both. As the one dies so dies the other. YES THEY ALL HAVE ONE BREATH AND SPIRIT SO THAT MAN HAS NO PREEMINENCE OVER A BEAST for all is vanity." This verse clearly states that we have no right whatsoever to excert our dominion over animals in cruel and inhumane ways. And if we are wise we will treat them with the utmost regards. PROVERBS 1210 "A righteous man regards the life of his beast but even the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel." If you are a Christian righteous is what you want and wicked is what you don't want. MATHEW 57 "Blessed are the merciful for they will obtain mercy." Can any reasonable person argue that factory farming is not cruel or merciless? What about Mark Laudenslager's ludicrous inhumane alcohol experiments on Monkey's at the University of Colorado funded by the National Institute of Health? There are 2 billion Christians worldwide. What an impact it would be if they were all to go veg. There is I promise you a valid biblical argument to be made for animals and it is beginning to take shape. Thank God! Joel Osteen a teleevangelist one of my favorites told an entire colliseum full of people not to eat pork because it is unbiblical. He also told them to go freerange not only because of hormones and antibiotics but because of the small cages. I'm telling you we need to get these people on our side. I know many people are afraid if they go around quoting the Bible they will open themselves up to judgment and critism which in itself is unbiblical but darlings if that does occur all you have to do is quote that very famous biblical verse LOVE COVERS A MULTITUDE OF SINS.

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